The Landscape After the Fire: Trust and the Seeds That Awaken

New Embodied Podcast Episode with Naomi Irons

What does it really mean to trust life—especially when life brings us to our knees? What does trust feel like in the body, not as a concept or spiritual idea, but as a living force shaped by love, loss, and profound vulnerability?

In this week’s episode of the Embodied podcast, I sit down with my dear friend and spiritual teacher Naomi Irons for one of the most powerful conversations we’ve ever shared. Our topic is trust—trust as a path, a portal, and a spiritual awakening.

This conversation is for anyone navigating a life transition, facing uncertainty, healing from fear, or longing to reconnect with their soul’s deeper wisdom.

Trust at the Threshold: When Life Asks Everything of You

Naomi opens up about the moment her life changed forever: her son’s sudden illness, an unexpected MRI, and the heartbreaking discovery of a large brain tumor. What followed was a profound initiation into trust—not the trust we talk about, but the trust we become when there is no other choice.

Her story is a powerful reminder that:

• Trust is not a mindset.

• Trust is not positive thinking.

• Trust is presence.

• Trust is the body saying yes to the moment, even when the mind trembles.

Her experience invites us into our own inner thresholds—the moments where life strips away our strategies and asks us to stand in the raw truth of what is.

Creation, Destruction, and the Volcano Within

Living on the Big Island of Hawai‘i, Naomi draws from the land itself to illuminate what trust demands.

Volcanoes destroy—but they also awaken dormant seeds that cannot grow any other way.

This metaphor, woven throughout the episode, speaks to many spiritual seekers who are navigating endings, identity shifts, or emotional upheaval. The fire does not come to punish us; it comes to reveal what has been waiting beneath the surface of our lives.

If you are in a season of letting go or reorientation, this part of the conversation will resonate deeply.

The Difference Between Effort and Emergence

One of the most transformative threads we explore is the difference between:

• Trying to trust
  and

• Living from trust

Trying is effortful.
Trying is a strategy.
Trying keeps us in our heads, managing outcomes.

But living from trust is an embodied surrender—one that opens space for new creation, new relationships, and new ways of belonging.

Naomi describes this transition beautifully: “When I stop trying, the magic returns. The emergence returns.”

Embodying Trust in Relationships, Motherhood, and Grief

We touch on some of the most tender aspects of the human journey:

• loving without control

• mothering without grasping

• accepting endings with reverence

• allowing grief to guide us

• learning to be present with those we love as they transition

Naomi shares how she is currently walking with her beloved family dog through the end of his life—and how acceptance allows love to be felt without fear clouding the moment.

These teachings are essential for anyone moving through loss, anticipatory grief, or transformation.

This Episode Is a Companion for Your Soul

This is not a conversation to analyze.
It is one to feel in your body.

If you are seeking spiritual guidance, emotional healing, or deeper embodiment, this episode offers companionship and clarity. It invites you to trust your own knowing, your own timing, and your own emergence.

 Listen now:
 Where Presence Becomes Prayer: A Journey Into Living Trust — with Naomi Irons 

If you’re in a season of uncertainty, this episode is for you.

May it remind you that trust is not something you earn—
it is something you remember.